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it says on the screen, washington, we are getting more pictures if from washington so we will go define washington and gifford, both hit very bad with heartbreaking damage to livelihoods -- businesses and homes destroyed. our meteorologist, janice dean, is in the fox weather center. it is a long day and it is not over. >> preliminary reports here from the national weather service the tornado, an ef-4, preliminary reports from washington county, illinois, where we saw the pictures, winds up to 166 miles per hour and the worst damage in a small town where two people were killed and dozens were injured. we will look where we have tornado warnings right now, northern tennessee toward bowling green, kentucky, and, then, we had tornado storm that expired west of cincinnati all severe thunderstorm warnings but

we could see tornado warnings and that has been the case throughout the afternoon. i take you back quickly around the 1:00 o'clock area or timeframe where we saw the cells dropping the tornadoes around the washington, illinois area, with the devastate pictures and preliminary reports of an overfive up to at least 166 miles per hour and the totals keep rising. we have reports of 76 tornadoes, reports of hail and 200 reports of wind damage and it will continue through the evening and over the ohio river develop, the great lakes, the midwest and then into the northeast. we will bring those pictures which are just devastating. >> we are getting more video. people are coming from the areas where they have been hunkered in as the storm leaves their town and moves on to the next one. we will have reports on the group as we put our journalists

in the hard hit areas to bring you complete coverage coming up in an hour at 7:00 p.m. eastern. destabilize the markets and result in higher premiums. >> we have work to do no question. we have an interest in doing it together and working to ining tn that. >> senator nelson, you said the president's so-called fix threatens to undermine the new market and may lead to higher premiums and market disruptions in 2014 and beyond. now the president called you personally on friday. has your group changed its mind or do you still have the same concerns? >> i think the commissioner still have the same concerns. keep in mind, some of the commissioners have already found a way to extend the coverage that people currently have in 2014. so there's some that have already done something

comparable to what the president is talking about and others have taken other steps to mitigate against this and some decided they're not going to follow what the president has suggested. keep in mind, it is a suggestion. it is not a ruling and it certainly is not a law. >> explain why this is such a problem for insurance companies, reinstating policies, figuring out premiums for the old plans and the new plans before the end of the year. and what do you think the result is? we know there are millions of cancellations. do you think most of those policies will be reinstated or not reinstated? >> let's step back. first of all, the reason that people are seeing changes and seeing communications from insurers is after january 1, 2014, the law requires us to meet the new benefits. that's principle number one. in terms of the new announcement, the state new year's commissioners as ben nelson said will decide what the

rules are in the particular state. our members are going to work very, very hard to try to support their customers to provide them options at the same time making sure that the new market will be affordable and that's the key point. that's why i think there are a range of interests that are very important. insurance commissioners. the insurance industry. health plans, the administration, consumers working together to try to make sure that they can buy affordable coverage and that is the issue. how do we balance those risk pools? who stays out? who goes in? there's a strong interest in talking that out and working on that now so that people can in fact get the coverage that they need and that's what we're focused on. >> senator nelson, let me ask you a blunt question. do you think the president is trying to shift the blame for his promise about if you want your policy you can keep your policy from the white house to the insurance companies and frankly to your insurance regulators? >> i don't know that that's the

case. what i do think is that the insurance commissioners from every state will do their level best to try to take care of their people back home and try to do it within the confines of the law and within the actual consideration as well. worrying about rate increases, trying to hold the line, make certain that the risk pool is sufficient under the rules of law of large numbers which is what you get with science the more people you have in the plan, generally the better the plan is. so excludeing some people from the plan creates certain issues. also, the commissioners are focused on solvency. they want to make certain this doesn't shift the cost to the point that insurers face and risk insolvency. >> finally, the president started out working with the insurance industry when it came to obama care but lately the white house has taken to bashing

it. here are a few statements. >> that market has been like the wild west. it has been underregulated. >> some think they have health insurance and think they do and the insurance company says you owe $50,000. >> when the president was going around the country promising if you like your plan, cyou can kep your plan. did you know that wasn't possible under obama care? >> i'm not in the blame game. we're focused on addressing the reasonable problems. we have an interest in doing so so that the markets don't blow up. there's a joint interest in doing that. helping our customers. when you set rules in place and an industry meets them and then the rules are changed, that creates the kind of problems that senator nelson talked about. so we are focused on trying to address those problems in moving forward.

we have a policy disagreement. we're going to work and we continue to work with the white house and the administration and we'll continue to do that because we have a shared goal of getting people covered and most importantly getting people covered affordably. >> we want to thank you both so much for coming in today. >> thank you. >> we want to continue the conversation now with our sunday group. fox news senior political analyst, judy woodruff, judge will and bob woodward of "the washington post." in the wake of the president's so-called fix, how much trouble is obama care in and how much trouble is president obama in? >> i don't think he did a great deal for relieve him of the political peril that his broken promise regarded by many as a lie has put him and despite diplomatic language employed by your guests about the fix, it seems clear to me the fix won't go very far and won't do very much and if it did, it would

destabilize the market because it would leave out of the exchange policies a great many people of the very kind they need. they need young, healthy people to sign up and buy extensive policies to balance the risk pool so that there will be enough money to afford to pay for the care of the older, sicker people who are also getting this insurance. so there's both a political problem and a substantive problem and i don't see that what he's done has alleviated it. >> in the house on friday, 39 democrats jumped ship and voted with a republican plan that i think most people feel would effect got obama care and more than 100 democrats would have joined the republican effort. here's a clip from a california democratic freshman who still voted with the republican plan.

>> what we have to do is take things working and build off that and be open as a party for things that are not working to fix them and make them better. >> judy, we're a year out from the election but democrats in both the house and the senate have a real problem here, don't they? >> the white house knows that. and what they know though is that vote could be made worse if the president had not made the accommodation he did a few days ago. they know this could imperil the presidency when it comes to domestic issues for the rest of the term. everything the president has tried to do is now on the line. if they can't get this website up and running and if they can't get people to have confidence in this plan, but you talked to smart policy folks in the white house and they say that there is at least a 50-50 chance at least that the website will be working and that people will be signing up and that it will -- the experience overall that the benefits will outweigh the

negatives. >> they're telling you it's a 50% chance it won't be working? >> i'm probably being more conservative than they are. they are trying to scale down expectations. they think there's a good chance -- by the way, they think they have common cause with the insurance industry. they tell you that they say the insurance companies tell them there's pent-up demand for these policies. they want coverage. and it's in the interest of the insurance industry to sell these plans. the white house is counting on that. >> meanwhile, republicans are having a field day with the president's problems with obama care in the weekly gop media address senator ron johnson said that the president -- his apology was as phony as his fraudulent marketing of obama care. take a look at this. >> consumer fraud this massive in the private sector could and should bear serious legal

ramifications. for president obama, however, it helped secure enough votes to pass obama care and win re-election. >> george, is this now a free fire zone for republicans and do they have any obligation in a political sense to offering a serious alternative? >> i think the republicans have offered serious alternatives all along. the president's name is on this. he did it without any other votes so live with it. one republican put it brilliantly. a congressman from louisiana said a president is like a man that burns your house down but then shows up with an empty water bucket and delivers a lecture about how bad your house was before he burned it down. it was nine months ago an official of the centers on medicare and medicaid services told a conference what we want to avoid is a third world experience. we've had the third world experience and what judy rather

delicately calls the president's accommodation looks to a great many of us to look illegal. we're told in grade school that in that building behind you are the two legislative chambers of the federal government. there's a third. it's called the white house press room into which the president can on a whim rewrite laws. it's an historic civics lessons. >> i didn't learn that in school. i hate it when people come to me and say you've been around this town a long time because i always know what that means. bob, you've been around this town a long time. have you ever seen anything like this? a president with three years to roll out his signature accomplishment literally with his name on it and it gets so botched. >> you think about what this is. it's a mess clearly. what it isn't and what i think you have to look at the question and motive and the president's motive here even though there are problems with implementation, he wants to do

something good for 30 million people and get them health insurance. this isn't watergate. this isn't clinton and monica lewinsky. >> i'm not saying it's a scandal. it seems to be rank incompetence. >> there's no question about that. you see all of these stories and this frenzy out there. the game over. the presidency is over. some people are saying i think that's not the case. here's the other side of this, which i would agree with george will on, when you go down the road, it's going to get worse because you talk to the experts and they will tell you that this is a money issue. it's going to blow a hole in the budget and as we go in two or three months from now and have more, are we going to shut down the government? are we going to pay for the debt we have? all of a sudden this is going to come on the table and people are going to say, my god, it's going to cost much more money than we

were spending on these things before. so how you disentangle this is now on obama's head. can he learn? this is an executive function, which is something he's not starred in so far in this presidency and can he get it together? everyone says and knows he's quite bright and can he learn to manage? because this is -- >> when it was said we're trying to prevent blowing up the insurance markets. that's a rather big deal. i think this is a constitutional scandal. suppose the next republican dent, ent, and there will be comes into the press room some days and says, you know, i really think the capital gains tax does not serve the national interest so we're just as an act of executive discretion going to quit enforcing that for a few years. that's not the rule of law. >> it is in a way but as you know there's a strong other side

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joining me now for his first sunday interview as a candidate is liz cheney. welcome. >> it's great to be here. do you believe that president obama knowingly lied when he went around the country and promised if you like your insurance plan you can keep your plan? >> i do. there's no way he could not have known the truth. there was very clearly a situation in which they were thinking, you know what, the media never holds us accountable. they won't hold us. >> caller: accountable here. he probably figured he had to say this in order to get it passed. no question but that he lied. we're all paying the price for it now. you see real turmoil inside the democratic party because now even democrats have to admit what the president said was fundamentally untrue and that this has been a train wreck. >> your opponent in this race, senator enzi, voted against obama care but you say that's not enough and you point to the

fact that he was a member of the so-called gang of six that beforehand worked three republicans, three democrats to try to work out a compromise unsuccessfully and he dropped out and voted against it. isn't that what legislating is about? >> legislating is about knowing where to draw the line. certainly at some point we all believe in compromise for the good of the nation. you know, we have the code of the west out in miawyoming. when the president of the united states walks into the room or his allies say we'll impose this program and take over a sixth of the economy, senator enzi's response was to say, all right, let's negotiate about that the right response would have been absolutely not. under no circumstances. frankly, if all of the republicans had done that at the beginning, had stood their ground and refused to negotiate to compromise on this, we probably wouldn't be where we are today. instead you had republicans like senator enzi who gave the president running room and cover and the ability to say, hey,

this is a bipartisan effort when in fact it wasn't. it was never intended to be. they got used. the right answer then would have been we're not going to allow you to go down that path. >> you started erunning your first tv ad of the campaign. here's a clip. >> when i was 12 years old, my dad ran for congress and we campaigned as a family all across wyoming. i'm running for the united states senate because it's time for a new generation of leaders to step up to the plate. >> a couple things about that ad. you talk about in the ad about your local family roots in wyoming and that's true. you and your husband and your children just moved from northern virginia last year. some people in wyoming are saying you're a carpet bagger. >> i think, first of all, what that ad shows is i'm a fourth generation wyomingite and a plug to my daughter at the end of the ad. look, i mean, on my mom's side i'm fourth generation.

on dad's side third generation wyomingite. those making the charge don't want to talk about senator enzi's lack of results. i would say also the time that i spend outside wyoming, the time i spent working inside federal agencies in washington, d.c., is experience that's very important for what i think has got to be the top priority of wyoming senator which is rolling back massive expansion of our federal governmenting cutting agencies and their size getting the federal government under control. the abuse going on by agencies like epa, war on coal, this president's policies across the board involve a massive unsustainable expansion of the federal government. having worked inside federal agencies, i know how to cut them. i know what it will take to roll it back. >> you say in that ad it's time for a new generation. let's look at mike enzi's record. let's put it up on the screen. he has a 93% lifetime rating from the american conservative

union. 100% from the national right to life committee and an a plus from the nra. is there something wrong with that record or are you just saying that at age 69, he's too old? >> it's not about age. he's been here for 18 years. the last five under barack obama. and the people of wyoming are suffering greatly. we're ground zero for this president's policies. when you're in a position like that, it's not enough just to say, i'm going to go along to get along and continue business as usual. it's going to take people who are willing to lead. people willing to stand up and say, you know what? the president's war on coal isn't just going to devastate wyoming. anybody around this country who likes to flip a switch and have the lights come on will appreciate the affordable electricity are with us on the war on coal. it requires leadership and mobilizing people to stand up against this onslaught of our constitutional rights, our liberties and values and frankly

over the last five years things are worse for the people of wyoming and not better. >> if i may -- >> you may. >> the president is the president. the democrats hold control of the senate. just the numbers are the numbers. you say it's not justify to say i tried and you need to push back more aggressively. what specifically can you point to and say that you would have been able to block in obama agenda with democratically controlled senate that mike enzi failed to block? >> across the board. we talked about obama care. i would not have participated in the gang of six. >> he passed it without a single republican vote. >> it's not just about voting. it's about whether or not the republicans have a new generation of leadership and new voices to stand up and mobilize people on our side to begin to roll this back. if we'll ever change the fact that the democrats have the majority, we have to get a new generation elected on our side. senator enzi's hallmark piece of legislation is something he's done with dick durbin, one of the most liberal members in the

united states senate. that's the internet sales tax. i fundamentally believe either you're on the side that government has plenty of money and we need to have people keep more of their own money or looking for ways to tax people more. the internet sales tax is a way to tax people more. as a wyoming senator i would fight to help people in wyoming keep money in their own pockets. >> some of your conservative critics say you have flipped positions on some issues to try to attract wyoming voters that you didn't previously hold. you now say that you oppose same-sex marriage but they point out that in 2009, you opposed a constitutional amendment -- you say it's a state issue, it would ban same-sex marriage and you supported the state department offering benefits to the same-sex partners and they say that's a flip. >> it's not. i don't believe we ought to discriminate against people because of sexual orientation. if they are in a same-sex relationship and they want their partner to have health benefits

or be designated as a beneficiary under life insurance, there's no reason we shouldn't do that. i also don't support amending the constitution on this issue. i do believe it's an issue that's got to be left up to the states. i do believe in the traditional definition of marriage. frankly, you know, senator enzi's friends and supporters are running an ad in wyoming and the senator has said he doesn't believe in gutter politics. he said he won't stoop to that level. i think he ought to renounce it. he ought to run the kind of campaign that frankly the people of wyoming deserve, which is what i'm doing which is a campaign based on substance and based on issue. >> you talked about your position against same-sex marriage. your sister, mary, married to a woman put out this post. she said for the record, i love my sister but she's dead wrong on the issue of marriage. >> and i love mary very much. i love her family very much. this is an issue on which we disagree. >> finally, the primary is not until next august. this is a long time from now. your dad has already gotten into

a dustup with senator enzi. your mom has gotten into a dustup with former senator simpson who is supporting enzi. any qualms about getting involved in what almost seems like a family feud inside the wyoming republican party? >> you know, look, i think the statement that the state party put out the day i announced is a good one reminding the people of wyoming that the state doesn't belong to any one person. it's a good thing for the state and party and voters having a chance to make a decision and again, we are facing huge issues. the stakes here in terms of the threat to our freedom and threat to our values, what it means if we allow this president the next three years essentially unopposed if we don't decide we'll stand and fight, those stakes are so high that that's what matters. that's why i got in this race. i really do believe we can't continue business as usual and hope to be able to save our fundamental freedoms to defend

our constitutional rights against this onslaught. >> liz, thank you. thanks for joining us. please come back. >> i sure will. thanks. >> we also have invited her opponent senator mark enzi for an interview. we hope he'll accept. remembering jfk approaching 50th anniversary of his assassination. we'll examine the president's life and legacy with two people who call him uncle jack. hey, we got our cards, honey! great.

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>> president kennedy just five his athbefore his assainatn. >> president kennedy trying to dial down the problems with russia. i sat down with kathleen kennedy

and pratt trick kennedy to discuss their memories much uncle jack. kathleen, you were 12 years old when president kennedy died and there is a wonderful old video of you and all the kennedy children rushing to the helicopter to greet the president. what are your memories of john f. kennedy? >> that is a big memory. every friday the president came to massachusetts with my father and all the grandchild, or the children or the cousins, whatever you call us, would rush to the helicopter and greet our fathers because we were so it gooded about seeing them usually the president would get into a golf court and we would pile on and he would run it up and down the hills as fast as he could and we would laugh and scream and think it was all so much fund. >> did you think of him as the president or jack? >> he was uncle jack to me until he was president but when he became the president that was

very important and as you can imagine my father being the attorney general each night we would pray that my father would be the best attorney general ever and that uncle jack would be best president ever so there was the connection that he was the president and he had a lost important work to do. >> the day he died, your father gave you a letter. >> actually, this is the day that my uncle was buried, my father wrote me and you can imagine it was...he had the love to say, dear kathleen you seem to understand that jack died and as the oldest of the grandchild you have a special responsibility to john and joe. be kind to others and work for your country, love daddy. i think of that letter and i am

stunned high had the time and care to write it and then to also realize what the message was because you could understand, chris, as you know from interviews, after a death, a horrible death, people could be bitter and angry and want revenge and that message could have been the emergency that he sent us. we would have pent the last, many members of our family, spent the last 50 years an bring at the forces that caused president kennedy's death but, instead, he asked us to be kind, to work for our country and to love one another. really, just an amazing legacy and so important what you say. >> patrick, you were not born until 1967, but what did your dad used to tell you about the president? >> we had this legacy of public service and i think it is something that kathleen can

speak to when we travel the country and people meet us, they tell us how much both her father and president kennedy meant to them as inspirational figures who just as kathleen referred to, inspire people to give of themselves whether it is through the peace corps or many of the domestic programs, including civil rights which president kennedy played such a pivotal role in helping to usher in. that legacy lives on and we are very blessed to have that legacy. >> i understand 35 members of your family went to ireland to commemorate the president's visit and to prepare for the onslot of all of this coverage. how do you regard the attention to the exercise, a celebration of the president's life or unseemly focus on his death? >> people have remembered, for instance, our trip, he said it

was the happy of the four daze of his life and his wife went to the rosary of where his grandfather came from because she understood how much it minute to the people of ireland. what i have seen in the last few months is looking back on what the civil rights movement did. president kennedy said this was a moral issue. his ability to go to berlin and speak in german to the german, when people didn't like the gemans but he put himself in their shoes. a we heard and what you know, we are remembering him not because he died. there are a lot of people who died 50 years ago and we are not remembering them, but we remember him because he asked us to be better, he said each of us can give more, can do more. he challenged us as you know for the peace corps but, also, to go to the moon not because it is easy but because it's tough.

what a great message to believe that you can take on tougher issues. >> patrick, i have to ask, among all of this celebration of his life, do you believe that three harvey oswald was the lone gunman? >> as kathleen pointed out our family visits her father's grave and president kennedy's grave on their birthdays, the celebration events that celebrate a life so i agree with you, a lot of focus is on the death and the conspiracy around the death but we have to live in the future and my father was an example of someone who always kept moving forward. he set that model for all of us when it could have taken him down if he had been preoccupied about the tragedies that he witnessed. that is the message we were

given, we had to keep looking forward. >> do you believe oswald was the lone assassin? >> i don't know. i don't know. i don't know. what we learned from that letter from my father, i am not going to solve that problem so i will focus on things that i can to do make a difference. that was a terrible time in our country's history. >> let's talk about president president kennedy's legacy half a century later. there is a growing body of thought that, in fact, president kennedy was conservative in his policies, he was a fierce cold warrior and believed tax cuts spur the economy. kathleen? >> well county as you know, the tax cuts when i was growing up and when you were growing up were 90 percent of the tax rate of the marginal rate so we

lowered it to 70 percent so from 90 percent to 70 percent is that down to 22 percent so he was a smart guy and balled and he realized we needed to put more money in the hands of the citizens and that would help spur the economy. he was right about that. he did not like communist. that is for sure. high believes in freedom and liberty and he resisted almost at every turn the generals what want dead go do war, during the bay byes when they wanted to bomb he said no and during the cuban missile crisis, when they wanted to bomb he said no. he thought as was point out if you have a long twilight struggle where you can stop communism and, then, believe in freedom, freedom eventually wins out. >> patrick you are involved in mental health care with the very troubled, some would say disasterous roll out of obamacare some are

questioning whether this raises doubts about big government solutions? >> i think president kennedy was so beloved because his message was setting of goals, it was idealism. in our own lives and the life of our government we are not that efficient in achieving the goals we set. the goal is right. the goal is to treat others as we ourselves would like to be treated from the vantage point you don't want to be discriminated against because of pre-existing condition in health care. let's examine what this goal is. do we have trouble implementing it? you bet. is the goal right? i think it is. we have to fix this but the good news is, if we work together which is what president kennedy was about, we can attain and achieve anything. that was his inspiration to all americans, we need to build each other up and help each other

make this a better place to live. >> finally, for anyone who was old enough to be around at that terrible time there is the question how much the world changed that day, november 22, 1963, before there was peace and prosperity there was a sense that america's place in the world was certain. after that, there was -- there were riots and assassinations and vietnam, watergate, how much did the world change that day? >> it change add lot. i believe individuals can make a difference and leaders can make a difference and the loss of president kennedy was devastating to the world and the loss of my father. it shows what one says and how one says it and what the leaders do makes a difference. the loss of president kennedy and my father, i think, was devastating.

>> thank you both so much for sharing this day and, i hope, you see it as a celebration of a president's life and not a focus on his death and just know and i speak for everyone that our thoughts and prayers are with your family this week. >> thank you. >> thank you, chris. >> when we come back, our sunday panel weighs in on the fateful day and the legacy of president kennedy.

>> sights and sounds from the funeral procession that took the president's 35th president to his final place of rest some 50

years ago this coming week. we're back now with the panel. george, your thoughts about john f. kennedy's legacy and this growing notion that he in fact espoused a lot of conservative values? >> he was a conventional liberal before liberalism changed in the late 1960s. domestically he believed in increased revenues from lower rates. more people substantially visit the fifth floor museum in the texas book depository than the library. it has more on the way with he died than how he lived. his record was thin. what his death did was give rise to a narrative that america was

somehow deeply flawed because of this. if you look at the court historian, look under the index under o and you won't find oswald mentioned. not in the book. this was two years after the assassination. now the narrative that immediately emerged was a streak of violence particularly on the right killed kennedy. we happen to know he was killed by a silly communist. >> bob, when you look at kennedy half century later, what matters? what endures? >> well, i think the real message in what george is saying, i mean, the death was so abrupt and so tragic that the real lesson is that awful things can happen that change history and this changed history in a way that was unimaginable. i was in college and there was just this sense of everything is coming apart.

there is no civility. there's no rationality. and one person -- i mean, i think the evidence is there that oswald did it. did it alone. there are lots of people that don't want to say this is the act of one mad man and they want to say there were forces out there. i don't see the evidence. >> let me ask you. i would say as pre-eminent investigative journalist of our generation, did you ever think of delving into the kennedy assassinati assassination? >> my answer always is tell me who was a member of the plot and bring them to me and i'll listen. you go through all of this and take any big moments in history, there are always unanswered questions and inconsistencies

but that doesn't mean the body of evidence about oswald is not substantial. >> i want to pick up on something that bob and george said and that is that i think a fair reading of history would be that president kennedy's promise that president kennedy's promise exceeded his accomplishments, and why do people 50 years later care so muche in. >> i think he was the coolest president we ever had. he was a cool guy and therefore appealing. >> if you look at the pictures of him we'reol running, he is u impossibly glamorous.im >> i think despite the thin kno of the record that you just mentioned, that george just mentioned. he has been the subject of the most successful public relationn campaign in political history. the notion that he was a great g president, indeed perhaps in t some surveys, listed the greatest president, is really ap remarkables testament to the ve ability of those who so admired him and others to have built

this man's legend. and it a legend border on myth. one other thought about this. we've never had a better lessonn in the reasons why courts have rules of evidence than his death. because lee harvey oswald was himself murdered and never brought to trial, we never had the facts of that case tested in a courtroom with rules of w evidence and the result is that there is a mountain of evidence pointing in a multitude of directions about this thing to the point, i would remind you, that one man's book even succeeded after much difficulty in getting lee harvey oswald exhumed because the book theorya was that he was not the guy in the grave.ause they dug him up.eory it was oswald. t >> judy, i want to pick up on the question d that i asked kathleen kennedy townsend near the end. do you agree with this notion that the world somehow changed,

if not that day, in that period and that, you know, one of the cliches is we lost our innocence? up on what bob said. it was the end of, if we were p nnlt as a nation, it ended with the kennedy assassination. what i find remarkable, yes, thm historians are arguing over whether he had ahe successful presidency or not.e ha where he was on civil rights, o, dealing with the russians and just dealing with problems of th both domestic and foreign policy. setting that aside, he continuen to inspire. i was a young teenager when he a died. and he inspired me. and he continues to inspire. ins i think young people today, looi at the reaction. even internationally to john kennedy. people still look at him as pe someone whoop represents the so country.nts that is something that endures about him. >> very quickly. you've got kids, i've got kids. do they get john kennedy? g

>> i don't think they get him the way we do. but they are interested in him. and i think that is something >> again that endures.y >> thank you,we panel. see you next sunday. up next, our power player of the week. the p272 words that helped defe the nation. 272 when you have diabetes like i do, getting the right nutrition isn't always easy. first, i want a way to help minimize my blood sugar spikes. then, a way to support heart health. ♪ and let's not forget immune support. ♪ but now i have new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. including carbsteady ultra to help minimize blood sugar spikes. it's the best from glucerna. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance. from the brand doctors recommend most. advancing nutrition for diabetes.

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stan. this week marks the 50th anniversary of the death of president kennedy. but it is also the 150th anniversary of lincoln's gettysburg address. here is our power player of the week. >> like a north star for the country, it is what we aspire to be. what we want to be. and i think that in a way is what lincoln sbeblded it to be. >> scott has been the national parks service historian at gettysburg the last 18 years. and this is a special week for

him. >> when is the last time you read the gettysburg address? >> this morning. >> four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. >> he says you have to understand the circumstances. the first three days of july, 1863, in a battle that hem turn the tide of the civil war. four months later lincoln came to the cemetery where the troops were buried. >> the world will little note nor long remember what we said here but they will not forget what they did here. >> it was between 15,000 and 20,000 people. >> but lincoln was not the main

speaker. form he senator edward everett delivered the oration for two hours. the president spoke for two minutes. 272 indelible words. >> did people realize the gettysburg address was the gettiesburg address? >> in the immediate aftermath, i don't know that a lot of people here recognized something historic in what lincoln had said. >> but edward everett did. >> the day after he writes lincoln a note. and he said if i could have come as close to the central meaning of what we were there for in two hours as you did i in two minutes, i would have been satisfied. this is thought to be the draft lincoln read that day. the first written in ink on white house stationary. the second rewritten in pencil. >> lincoln sees it as a chance to speak to the people in a brief speech and define, this is the heart of what this war is about and this is also who we are. >> from these honored dead, we

take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. >> now, he says, it is for us, the living, to fight for what these men died for. and he defines what that is. it is a new birth of freedom. >> it is a message that endures a century and a half later. a lesson scott hardwig loves to teach. >> the idea being able to share the relevance of gettysburg, the relevance of the civil war in people's lives today. it is incredibly rewarding to be able to do that. it is a wonderful, just a wonderful job. >> the government of the people, by the people, for the people. shall not perish from the earth. >> hartwig notes lincoln only had two weeks to write the gettysburg address. he said the president had been

thelg t developing the theme of the heart of the speech his whole life. see you next week. see you this is the fox report and we begin with news as a storm system that has been dropping tornadoes all day long remains active at this hour. an estimated 70 million people in the path of the storms. ten states bracing for hours on this sunday. now into the evening hours. this is fairly late in the season for all of this kind of activity. and even with all the forecasts and the warnings, a lot of people say they were caught by surprise. it is a fast moving storm system tearing through great lakes and the ohio valley right now. we begin the day with just reports of damage and now we're reporting three people are dead. at least at this po